3rd Wave Specs!

3/26/2010

Here are the features and specs for the new Third Wave frame. This frame is the culmination of years of experience gathered from all the previous Sunday frames. The Third Wave is Sunday’s greatest accomplishment in design, function and aesthetic up until this point.

TT Lengths: 20.5″, 20.75″ and 21″
HT Angle: 74.5 deg.
ST Angle: 71 deg.
CS Length: 13.75″
BB Height: 11.75″
Standover: 8.461″ (Center of BB to Center of TT)
Weight: 4 lbs 12 oz
Colors: Black Magic, white and limited colors

Interact: 64 Comments
Categories: Freestyle, Gallery, Photos, Product
Tags: Third Wave

tim

more info on the cable guide, channel, and how it attaches please.
Jake

Make it in fluro yellow plz!
Dune

HEEEAAAAVYYYYYY!!!!!
http://sundaybikes.com jimc

Tim-Cable guide and channel info will be coming soon.

Jake-I think you’ll have to paint it yourself. Those colors are sort of Funday colors.

Dune-Our goal has always been to make the best frame which balance weight, function, aesthetic and features. Not just make the lightest frame that will break underneath you.
Malcolm

Are their any plans to release anything other then the model d in top tube sizes over 21″?
vb

lol @ calling it heavy, it’s 4.75lb

Is the CS 13.75″ slammed, or 13.6something slammed like the 2nd Wave?
toby

damnit – was hoping there’d at least be a 21.25″ :-( alot of companies are even doing 21.5″ these days…..
ramon

make it with integrated pivotal post, or put an integrated seat post clamp
KEV

are there going to be any other sticker designs for the 3rd wave?? these are kind of weak
http://sundaybikes.com jimc

The back end is the same as the Second Wave.

Toby-Please remember with today’s low slung top tubes that frame top tube lengths are even more misleading.
toby

How so ? If the head and seat angles are the same; the height of the top tube makes no difference…..In any case i was thinking mainly about the Fit Lurch which has a 9″ standover or a Macneil deuce Deuce which has a 8.7″ standover……the Mutiny Mystic and subrosa pandora which also have 21.5″ options are around 8.5″…..thing is; i want a sunday!

http://sundaybikes.com jimc

The distance measured from the bb to the headtube where the top top contacts it will be different than from the same point on the headtube to an inch below the seat post tube. As you move down the seat tube the distance gets longer. There’s an illusion of length going on.

VinceK

^^Same here! Sunday…must…have…please?!?!
Luke

Hi Jim,

I’m running a 21.25TT Sunday 1st wave and it’s been brilliant over the last 3 years.

I’m very interested in the 3rd wave. Will these come out in TT sizes greater than 21 inch later?

Also, will there be some frames made that do not have removable brake mounts? I much prefer having my brake lugs welded to the frame.

Well done on a awesome company, team and innovative ideas. The only parts I run are Sunday/Odyssey, I just don’t trust anything else.

Thanks Jim.

http://sundaybikes.com jimc

I think you’ll see a 21.25″ before you see welded on mounts. I know you don’t trust them, but Gary Young, Alex Magallan and myself all run them with no problems. It’s nice to sort of see the mounts become part of the brakes as opposed to the frame.

muffin man

Jim, these stickers are very un-Sunday! they’re more…. Monday?

honestly, they don’t look too good.

and why 5mm dropouts on the forecaster?

http://sundaybikes.com jimc

Really? The thing about Sunday is our thing is that we are open ended meaning that we want to be able to go in any direction. I like how the graphics are all over the place.

davy B

what do you think about adding neon green to the ltd colors?
Scottyb

the decals remind me of old freestyle days, like skyway. throw on some white mags on that bad boy!
Tanner in AZ

JimC: Sending you a private email from address tmsumner@bcsdemo.com Please Please Please Check! Wanna work something out with you and Miguel at Adventure in Mesa! Great Job on the Frame! looks amazing!
Ryan

About the decals…I was thinking Redline RL-20.
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Mike

hey i ride mostly street but when trails are running i ride trails what are the downsides to riding this frame on trails and would it b better fer me to buy the model d?
emmanuel

hey make it in fluorescent red plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rickk

the stickers look sick. needs an integrated seat post my Ian looks clean!!!!!!!!!
Jon

wats the diffrence between the second wave n this one
steve

When can I pick one up?
daryn dann

just an idea but what about wave chainstays ???? i always fuck mine up

http://sundaybikes.com jimc

We’ve thought about it, but there hasn’t been a good cheap way to do it. You might see it, but we aren’t sure when.

http://none jack

sticker designs are horrible ……they dont have the sunday flair at all ….

http://sundaybikes.com jimc

Sunday has always intended to be open ended. Meaning we can sort of go in any direction we want.

http://sundaybikes.com jimc

This one has removable mounts, Wave top tube and cable channel with removable cable guide. Those are the main differences.
Aaron

can you tell us the month that this will be in stores ?
butter man

i think the graphics work well with the crimped tube design, like some kind of 80s futurism deal. i don’t see what the fuss is about. y’all are just going to remove them anyway.
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DUSTIN

send one 3rd wave to dons bikes in rialto please…..i need it…….
RADBMX

I’m so sick of denting both top and/or bottom tubes and breaking top and/or bottom tubes right at the headtube.So I’m very interested in either the 3rd wave or the Forecaster.What will the SRP be on these frames?

Also I noticed theres a quarter inch difference in BB height,so is 11.75″ higher or lower than 11.5″?The reason I ask is that I like more low slung frames but,I forgot how they messure BB heighth.
Jared

i agree flouro yellow and the stickers arent that great. make a large variety of colors please!!
moodyinsf

the sticker way is nice.”TRON style” sum may be to young for the first move but JimC is not so go buy a sunday and be happy…………. p.s. see the new TRON yo
http://sundaybikes.com jimc

I should probably see the old Tron first. When does it come out? All the frames, Third Wave, Funday and Forecaster will be in stores during the month of May. Not too far off. Get ready!

BB height is measured from the center of the BB to the ground.
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kyle

u guys should make this frame in fire engine red like the odyssey parts.
Ian Bowles

I’ve never been able to dial in my chain. I’ve tried halflinks, diferent chains, and even diferent sprocket/hub setups. I’m totally sold on the integrated tensioners… Awesome. Removable brakemounts… awesome. Stickers… awesome. If you’re so worried about stickers ride your bike instead of looking at it. Sunday is tearing up the scene right now and rightfully so! Keep up the awesome work!
Aidan

WHY?
SELL ME THE 2nd WAVE I DONT WANT THIS
Aidan

but since i love sunday so much i still bought this frame :D i love integrated chain tensioners!
a sort of off topic note: i jailbroke my ipod and its all sunday and odyssey, the icons, the background, everything! is nice!
brandon

the specs on the 3rd wave are the same exact specs of the 2nd wave besides the waved toptube right? i have a 2nd wave and i love it but i cant remember what the specs of it is and there no where to be found on the internet anymore. im curious just for when the day comes when i need a new frame, i wanna make sure that the 3rd wave coincides the 2nd wave. thanks

http://sundaybikes.com jimc

Same specs Brandon!

Peter

r they stickers?
or r they painted on

Anonymous

stickers

http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Vo/100000583286390 Joe Vo

Can we buy frame sticker? When I bought it, someone had ripped them off the frame.

Anonymous

Joe, sorry I don’t have replacements available for this frame. I can send you some other stickers.

Henry

Hello do you have the frame sticker?

Anonymous

Sorry man, we do not have them available.

Andrew Skin

Hey Jim,

I like what you guys are doing over at Sunday, i currently have the ianschwartz, and its been running strong for bout 3 years now. Only comment i have to say is, you solved the downtube and headtube denting problem, but nothing has been done about the more obvious one (CHAINSTAYS). I hate denting chainstaysss.

Anonymous

We have worked on doing Wave chainstays, but its really difficult to bend a Wave tube. We had an idea to do it, but it would raise the costs of the frame by too much. We have a newish style chainstay coming on the Soundwave that should help. Thanks for the support.
Andrew

have you ever considered doing a similar support structure like in your hollow dropouts but in the chainstays too. like a plate of metal running vertically along the inside of the chainstay, this would fight against impacts from below i.e. messing up grinds.
Anonymous

Not really only because hits to the chainstays come from multiple directions, so making a support structure that prevents this problem might be too heavy and cost too much to make. Plus you would have problems bending the tube as well. Google SST Command Post
ride.bmx112

i had the ianschwartz my bottom tube dented but i loved the frame, yesterday at bethlehem skate plaza had a competition and my friend won the 3rd wave! such a nice frame!

Andrew

When is the soundwave on sale in the UK
Andrew Skin

yes that sst command post is the kind of structure i meant. its a shame it is difficult to use these ideas due to the bend. looking at the soundwave is it square tubed on the chainstays
Linkinpark_rockz564

does the sunday 3rd wave in a 20.75 have a 13.75 rear end?